ChristianWebsite Forum http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum This is a discussion forum powered by vBulletin. To find out about vBulletin, go to http://www.vbulletin.com/ . en Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:58:33 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/images/misc/rss.jpg ChristianWebsite Forum http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum Test results not good http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2302&goto=newpost Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:57:12 GMT I had my Catscan yesterday and the news was not good. I have a large mass in my chest and a large mass over my right kidney and in my adrenal gland.... I had my Catscan yesterday and the news was not good. I have a large mass in my chest and a large mass over my right kidney and in my adrenal gland. I now have a team of docs trying to decide where we go from here. I hope to know more by Monday. They have me on bed rest but I will be at Church to sing in the morning. I will give more updates as I get them. ]]> Christy http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2302 Big fight at Cal http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2301&goto=newpost Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:42:17 GMT BERKELEY, Calif. -- Students occupied a building Friday on the campus of the University of California, Berkeley, in an escalation of protests over... BERKELEY, Calif. -- Students occupied a building Friday on the campus of the University of California, Berkeley, in an escalation of protests over large fee increases at UC campuses statewide that echoed the unrest here during the 1960s. The occupation ended peacefully late Friday evening.

The takeover by as many as 50 students and their sympathizers took place before dawn Friday, a day after the UC Board of Regents approved a 32% increase in student fees to cope with California's long-running fiscal crisis.

Campus police made three arrests in the occupied Wheeler Hall classroom building after discovering furniture and other items propped up against doors at about 5:30 a.m. Friday, a school spokeswoman said. There were unofficial reports of at least one person arrested outside for allegedly crossing a police line marked by yellow tape.

Friday afternoon, an estimated 500 other students and supporters assembled around the building, despite a driving rain. . .

CAL

What the article didn't say was that numerous fights broke out between students and police, nearly fifty people were arrested, instead of just three and the police had to use rubber bullets and gas to gain the upper hand.

Hans ]]> The Lounge HansC http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2301 <![CDATA[An "Inconvienient Truth" . . .exposed.]]> http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2300&goto=newpost Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:25:04 GMT . . . 1n 2007, a British High Court judge ruled that Gore's film contained nine significant errors and should no longer be screened in schools unless accompanied by guidance notes to balance Gore's "one-sided" views.

The film's "apocalyptic vision" was not an impartial analysis of climate change, High Court Judge Michael Burton said, adding that the film is "substantially founded up scientific research and fact" but that the errors were made in "the context of alarmism and exaggeration."

Buoyed by the ruling, two Irish journalists -- Phelim McAleer and Ann McElhinney -- released a documentary in which they gather evidence outlining the damage of global warming hysteria. In "Not Evil Just Wrong," they challenge the claims made in Gore's film and conclude that the film is not worth screening in schools because it is shown there as "an article of science, not faith."

Last month, McAleer publicly confronted Gore in an. . .

Agore exposed

Hans ]]> HansC http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2300 No need to make up a tagline for this one http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2299&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:43:44 GMT Four people have been arrested in Peru on suspicion of killing some 60 people to sell their fat and other human tissue to Italian co-conspirators for...
Four people have been arrested in Peru on suspicion of killing some 60 people to sell their fat and other human tissue to Italian co-conspirators for cosmetic use in Europe, authorities say.

The suspects were arrested in central Peru this month and a search is underway for seven others, lead prosecutor Jorge Sans Quiro said.

The fat was purchased "to be commercialised in European (cosmetology) laboratories," he said.

The prosecutor's indictment said the gang allegedly targeted farmers and indigenous people on remote Andean roads, tricking them by offering jobs before killing them.

Police began arrests after discovering early this month a container with human fat that was being shipped to Lima from the Andean city of Huanuco, some 400 kilometres northeast of Lima.

Signs of "an international network trafficking human fat" first surfaced about two months ago, according to General Felix Burga, head of the police criminal division

...

http://www.theage.com.au/lifestyle/b...1120-ipqu.html
]]> The Front Page BeyondBlessed http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2299 Breaking News, Climate fraud exposed. http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2298&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:37:22 GMT . . .1079 emails and 72 documents seem indeed evidence of a scandal involving most of the most prominent scientists pushing the man-made warming... . . .1079 emails and 72 documents seem indeed evidence of a scandal involving most of the most prominent scientists pushing the man-made warming theory - a scandal that is one of the greatest in modern science. I’ve been adding some of the most astonishing in updates below - emails suggesting conspiracy, collusion in exaggerating warming data, possibly illegal destruction of embarrassing information, organised resistance to disclosure, manipulation of data, private admissions of flaws in their public claims and much more. If it is as it now seems, never again will “peer review” be used to shout down sceptics.

This is clearly not the work of some hacker, but of an insider who’s now blown the whistle. . .

Whistle blower

Who knows where this will lead. Seems to be legit. A "whistler blower" has posted numerous internal documents exposing much of the data of global warming as a fraud. I have looked at several of the documents and if this is for real it is really shocking. ]]> HansC http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2298 What does this phrase mean http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2297&goto=newpost Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:16:23 GMT "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" ]]> The Lounge Roses http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2297 Mad Science? Growing Meat Without Animals http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2296&goto=newpost Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:02:28 GMT Charles Q. Choi Special to LiveScience Livescience.com – Thu Nov 19, 9:41 am ET Winston Churchill once predicted that it would be possible to grow... Charles Q. Choi
Special to LiveScience
Livescience.com – Thu Nov 19, 9:41 am ET

Winston Churchill once predicted that it would be possible to grow chicken breasts and wings more efficiently without having to keep an actual chicken. And in fact scientists have since figured out how to grow tiny nuggets of lab meat and say it will one day be possible to produce steaks in vats, sans any livestock.


Pork chops or burgers cultivated in labs could eliminate contamination problems that regularly generate headlines these days, as well as address environmental concerns that come with industrial livestock farms.


However, such research opens up strange and perhaps even disturbing possibilities once considered only the realm of science fiction. After all, who knows what kind of meat people might want to grow to eat?


Advantages touted


Increasingly, bioengineers are growing nerve, heart and other tissues in labs. Recently, scientists even reported developing artificial penis tissue in rabbits. Although such research is meant to help treat patients, biomedical engineer Mark Post at Maastricht University in the Netherlands and his colleagues suggest it could also help feed the rising demand for meat worldwide.


The researchers noted that growing skeletal muscle in labs - the kind people typically think of as the meat they eat - could help tackle a number of problems:

Avoiding animal suffering by reducing the farming and killing of livestock.

Dramatically cutting down on food-borne ailments such as mad cow disease and salmonella or germs such as swine flu, by monitoring the growth of meat in labs.

Livestock currently take up 70 percent of all agricultural land, corresponding to 30 percent of the world's land surface, according to the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) of the United Nations. Labs would presumably require much less space.

Livestock generate 18 percent of greenhouse gas emissions, more than all of the vehicles on Earth, the FAO added. Since the animals themselves are mostly responsible for these gases, reducing livestock numbers could help alleviate global warming.


Need to scale up


Stem cells are considered the most promising source for such meat, retaining as they do the capacity to transform into the required tissues, and the scientists pointed to satellite cells, which are the natural muscle stem cells responsible for regeneration and repair in adults. Embryonic stem cells could also be used, but they are obviously plagued by ethical concerns, and they could grow into tissues besides the desired muscles.


To grow meat in labs from satellite cells, the researchers suggested current tissue-engineering techniques, where stem cells are often embedded in synthetic three-dimensional biodegradable matrixes that can present the chemical and physical environments that cells need to develop properly. Other key factors would involve electrically stimulating and mechanically stretching the muscles to exercise them, helping them mature properly, and perhaps growing other cells alongside the satellite cells to provide necessary molecular cues.


So far past scientists have grown only small nuggets of skeletal muscle, about half the size of a thumbnail. Such tidbits could be used in sauces or pizzas, Post and colleagues explained recently in the online edition of the journal Trends in Food Science & Technology, but creating a steak would demand larger-scale production.


Dark thoughts


The expectation is that if such meat is ever made, scientists will opt for beef, pork, chicken or fish. However, science fiction has long toyed with the darker possibilities that cloned meat presents.


In Warren Ellis and Darick Robertson's epic sci-fi satire "Transmetropolitan," supermarkets and fast food joints sell dolphin, manatee, whale, baby seal, monkey and reindeer, while the Long Pig franchise sells "cloned human meat at prices you like."


"In principle, we could harvest the meat progenitor cells from fresh human cadavers and grow meat from them," Post said. "Once taken out of its disease and animalistic, cannibalistic context - you are not killing fellow citizens for it, they are already dead - there is no reason why not."


Of course, there are many potential objections that people could have to growing beef, chicken or pork in the lab, much less more disturbing meats. Still, Post suggests that marketing could overcome such hurdles.


"If every package of naturally grown meat by law should have the text, 'Beware, animals have been killed for this product,' I can imagine a gradual cultural shift," Post said. "Of course, we still have a long way to go to make a product that is even remotely competitive with current products."


http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/...NjaWVuY2VzYw-- ]]> The Front Page Roses http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2296 Climatologists Baffled??? http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2295&goto=newpost Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:32:01 GMT Climatologists Baffled by Global Warming Time-Out By Gerald Traufetter Global warming appears to have stalled. Climatologists are puzzled as to why... Climatologists Baffled by Global Warming Time-Out

By Gerald Traufetter

Global warming appears to have stalled. Climatologists are puzzled as to why average global temperatures have stopped rising over the last 10 years. Some attribute the trend to a lack of sunspots, while others explain it through ocean currents.

At least the weather in Copenhagen is likely to be cooperating. The Danish Meteorological Institute predicts that temperatures in December, when the city will host the United Nations Climate Change Conference, will be one degree above the long-term average.

Otherwise, however, not much is happening with global warming at the moment. The Earth's average temperatures have stopped climbing since the beginning of the millennium, and it even looks as though global warming could come to a standstill this year.

Ironically, climate change appears to have stalled in the run-up to the. . .

Baffled

Hans ]]> HansC http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2295 Cousin http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2294&goto=newpost Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:43:59 GMT My wife's cousin went to the hospital with her eye bleeding and chest pain, please say a prayer. Thank you ]]> historyb http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2294 <![CDATA[What's been going on in my life]]> http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2293&goto=newpost Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:18:45 GMT Was not sure where to post this. I am sure it will be long and take many post to finish. Just wanted to fill everyone in on what has happened in my... Was not sure where to post this. I am sure it will be long and take many post to finish. Just wanted to fill everyone in on what has happened in my life in the past three years. For those that remember me feel free to ask questions. God has done some amazing things in the past three years but not before allowing me to wander in the desert and giving more then 1 spiritual whippings. I look back and still have no idea how I survived, it could have only been His grace and mercy.

I want to start by saying I am not the rude, ugly person I was three years ago, even though those behaviors had gotten worse through the molding process, I am now free of them and a lot of bitterness I was holding. I am sure there are some here that I have truly hurt and I am truly sorry. But rest assured the old me is far in the past.

I guess I will start in April 2007, I think that was the last time I posted. I lost my dad it was something I did not realize would effect me the way it did. Two weeks later in May we lost Drew's mom. I was so distraught that I went into work one day in late May and closed the door to my business.

My daughter and three grandbabies that had been living with us for two years up and moved back to KY over 600 miles away without notice. We were devastated, then Drew's daughter turns 18 and the next thing we know she is missing. She met a guy on-line and ran away. Took us 4 months to find her, she was like my own I raised her. But what can you do when she is 18?

My 24 year old is addicted to crack and was rapped and beaten over a bad drug deal. Til this day she is still on the drugs and has since had a child that my ex husband is raising. She is such a beautiful child but has a world of problems due to her mothers addiction.

One of my best friends shot herself and we lost another friend in a car accident. Then I find out that my adopted dad passed away. I have tried for years to keep contact with him. After he and my mothers divorce he wanted nothing to do with my sister and I, but I always sent him birthday and fathers day cards.

He had moved and I spent almost a year trying to locate him. My son had called and said he had gotten word that my adopted dad was in TX. Sooooo I get on line to try to find him and found his obituary instead. My sister nor I was even mentioned. We are his only children and he never re-married. I contacted his work and they did not even know he had children, they let me know that he had cancer and had been fighting it for two years. I have contacted my grandmother but she will not respond to my letters and will not answer my phone calls.

This is just the tip of the iceberg of what has been going on. But needless to say I got mad at God and walked away. I do not think there was another human on the face of this earth who was as far away as I was. I went back to Paganism, I mean after all I was not accountable being a Pagan and could do all the nasty little things God told me not too and boy have I done them.

Will share more later, like I said it will take awhile but there is a lesson here I promise.... ]]> Open Discussion Christy http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2293 Please pray for http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2292&goto=newpost Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:31:29 GMT The Pascal family. My husband"s very good friend's son was killed in a car wreck Friday. He was a college student at Southern Miss.

My husband was very upset. He used to go on fishing with him and his father.

Thank God the young man was a Christian. The family says their faith is the only thing keeping from falling apart.

Thanks ]]> HisDaughter http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2292 Va. teen suffers rare illness after swine flu shot http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2291&goto=newpost Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:59:22 GMT Boy diagnosed with Guillain-Barre syndrome, but CDC says no clear link By JoNel Aleccia Health writer msnbc.com updated 12:57 p.m. ET, Thurs., Nov... Boy diagnosed with Guillain-Barre syndrome, but CDC says no clear link

By JoNel Aleccia
Health writer
msnbc.com
updated 12:57 p.m. ET, Thurs., Nov . 12, 2009


A 14-year-old Virginia boy is weak and struggling to walk after coming down with a reported case of Guillain-Barre syndrome within hours after receiving the H1N1 vaccine for swine flu.

Jordan McFarland, a high school athlete from Alexandria, Va., left Inova Fairfax Hospital for Children Tuesday night in a wheelchair nearly a week after developing severe headaches, muscle spasms and weakness in his legs following a swine flu shot. He will likely need the assistance of a walker for four to six weeks, plus extensive physical therapy.

“The doctor said I’ll recover fully, but it’s going to take some time,” the teenager said.

Jordan is among the first people in the nation to report developing the potentially life-threatening muscle disorder after receiving the H1N1 vaccine this fall. His alarming reaction was submitted via msnbc.com's reader reporting tool, First Person, by his stepmother, Arlene Connin.

Increased cases of GBS were found in patients who received a 1976 swine flu vaccine, but government health officials say they've seen no rise in the condition associated with the current outbreak.

So far, the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have received five reports of GBS in people who received the H1N1 vaccine since Oct. 6, not including Jordan’s case, said Dr. Claudia J. Vellozzi, deputy director for immunization safety.

Out of about 40 million doses of H1N1 vaccine available to date, that’s a far lower rate of GBS than the 1 case that develops in every 1 million people who receive the regular flu vaccine.

"It's much less than we'd expect," she said, adding that many cases go unreported.

In 1976, about 1 additional case of GBS developed in every 100,000 people who were vaccinated against the swine flu, according to the CDC.

Jordan's parents said doctors diagnosed the teen with GBS, a rare muscle disorder that develops when a person’s own immune system attacks the nerves, causing muscle weakness, difficulty walking and sometimes paralysis and death.

Hospital officials didn't dispute that the boy had GBS, but refused to comment on the boy's condition or treatment, even after his family granted permission.

“They don’t want to create a fear or panic in the community,” said Jordan's stepmother, Connin.

Connin and Jordan’s father, Calvin McFarland, both 38, believe the shot sparked the illness that came on 18 hours after the boy’s vaccination.

No clear link
But Vellozzi said there’s no clear link between the new vaccine and the disease.

“We know that GBS and other illnesses occur routinely in the U.S.,” Vellozzi said, noting that 80 to 120 cases are diagnosed each week in the general population.

“There are events that follow vaccination. That’s what they are, they happened to follow vaccination.

GBS is among the most severe adverse events being tracked with updated systems developed by the CDC, the Food and Drug Administration and the American Academy of Neurology in order to monitor the rollout of the H1N1 flu vaccine.

So far, CDC officials have received about 1,700 reports of adverse events linked to the new shot, Vellozzi said. Of those, only about 4 percent, or 68, were coded as serious. That’s on par with reports regarding seasonal vaccine.

While any harmful side effect can be devastating for an individual, when it comes to larger public health issues, the H1N1 virus is considerably riskier than the vaccine, experts say.

“The H1N1 illness is making lots of children very ill," Vellozzi said. "There’s lots of illness and lots of death."

So far, more than 4,000 people have died from H1N1 infection in the U.S., according to latest estimates by the CDC.

Since the start of the H1N1 vaccine campaign, the CDC has repeatedly warned that certain conditions, such as miscarriage, heart attack and even GBS occur regardless of immunization, and officials have urged the public not to blame the vaccine for the illnesses, but to report promptly any suspected side effects.

As of early Wednesday, CDC officials said they had received no report from Inova Fairfax about Jordan's condition. Later in the day, however, hospital spokesman Tony Raker indicated the hospital had submitted the report.

After hearing about Jordan's case from msnbc.com, CDC officials advised the family to report Jordan's case themselves.

Vaccine critic Barbara Lowe Fisher, president of the National Vaccine Information Center in Vienna, Va., said assuming all potential side effects are coincidence is a mistake. Such an attitude is likely to prevent doctors and other health workers from reporting adverse events in a timely manner, obscuring a true picture of any problems.


Fisher said only between 1 percent and 10 percent of adverse events are reported to the government's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, which was set up to track problems with vaccines. A 1986 law requires reporting of certain adverse events to VAERS, but there are no sanctions for not reporting, Fisher noted. CDC officials said general reporting to VAERS is voluntary.

Fisher said she suspects that many more cases of GBS have occurred in the wake of the H1N1 vaccines.

"We basically have people blowing it off," she said. "We need to make sure people are reporting."


Potential side effects of H1N1 vaccine
Like the seasonal flu shot, the H1N1 vaccine may cause minor side effects:

— Soreness, redness or swelling where the shot was given
— Low-grade fever
— Aches
— Nausea
The nasal-spray version of the vaccine contains weakened virus, and side effects may include:

— Runny nose
— Wheezing
— Headache
— Vomiting
— Muscle aches
— Fever
— Sore throat or cough

On rare occasions, flu vaccination can cause serious problems, such as severe allergic reactions that include difficulty breathing, hoarseness, wheezing, swelling around the eyes or lips, weakness or a fast heart beat.

If any unusual condition occurs after vaccination, you should seek immediate medical attention, tell your doctor what happened, the date and time it happened and when the vaccine was given. Ask your doctor, nurse or health department to report the reaction by filing a Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) form. Or you can file this report yourself online at www.vaers.hhs.gov.



Eager for protection

Like many parents across the country, Arlene Connin said she was eager to protect Jordan and his brother, Lleyton, 7, against the flu. When she took the boys to their pediatrician for seasonal flu shots on Nov. 5, the provider said H1N1 vaccine was available, too.

There was “not even a thought,” that either boy would have a reaction, Connin said. Within hours, however, Jordan developed severe headaches, chills and back spasms. The family rushed him to the closest hospital, Dewitt Army Community Hospital, where doctors conducted neurological exams, a CT scan and an EKG test.

The small hospital didn’t have the facilities to diagnose or treat Jordan’s illness, so he was transferred by ambulance on Nov. 6 to Inova Fairfax Hospital in Falls Church, Va., a spokesman said. Doctors there quickly gave Jordan intravenous immunoglobulin, a standard treatment for GBS, Connin said.

“GBS, that’s the diagnosis they gave us and that’s how they were treating him,” Connin said.

A hospital spokesman, Tony Raker, declined further comment on Jordan's case. When an msnbc.com photographer asked to view Jordan's chart, even with his father's permission, hospital officials refused.

Doctors are reluctant to discuss GBS in connection with vaccines, Connin said. Anti-vaccine groups frequently cite the disorder as evidence of vaccine dangers, which public health officials fear will discourage people from getting life-saving protection, especially in the case of H1N1.

Jordan’s experience has made his parents think hard about immunization, even though they’ve always insisted on annual flu shots. Under CDC guidelines for children 9 and younger, Lleyton should receive another booster shot of H1N1 vaccine to protect him fully against the virus.

“I have mixed emotions on that one,” Calvin McFarland, the boys’ father, said. “We’re not sure what we’re going to do about that.”


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33845867...-cold_and_flu/ ]]> The Front Page Roses http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2291 GOP Hopefuls Jockeying Early for 2012 Presidential Race http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2289&goto=newpost Sun, 15 Nov 2009 06:49:30 GMT I came across this article and thought it might make for some good discussion: ---Quote--- GOP Hopefuls Jockeying Early for 2012 Presidential... I came across this article and thought it might make for some good discussion:

Quote:

GOP Hopefuls Jockeying Early for 2012 Presidential Race

by AP

At least a half-dozen Republicans are in the early stages of campaigning for the chance to challenge President Obama in his expected re-election race.

Sarah Palin is embarking on a book tour. Tim Pawlenty is building a national political operation. Mitt Romney is weighing in on the recession.

They are all jockeying for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination -- even if they won't say so.

Make no mistake: At least a half-dozen Republicans are in the early stages of campaigning for the chance to challenge President Obama in his expected re-election race.

Ultimately, some may decide against running. But, at this point, they're taking steps to position themselves for the Republican nomination fight -- and that means courting conservatives critical in primaries, proving they can take on a popular incumbent president and painting a vision for a wayward Republican Party.

And, of course, gauging their relative strength, visiting early primary states and refusing to rule out official bids.

More: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...idential-race/
So who do you think should run against Obama in 2012 and why? ]]> The Front Page eyewtkas http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2289 How to forgive unfaithfulness? http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2288&goto=newpost Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:23:16 GMT Our relationship with others must be based on love, because God who is love is the source of our life. True love is always unconditional. Therefore,... Our relationship with others must be based on love, because God who is love is the source of our life. True love is always unconditional. Therefore, when we love others, we do it irrespective of how they treat us and without expecting anything in return. God loved us first (1 John 4:11) by sacrificing His life for our sins although we rejected Him, were unfaithful to Him and killed Him. He told Hosea (Hosea 3:1), to return to his wife although she was an adulteress. God further told him to love her as the Lord loves the Israelites, though they were unfaithful to Him. As true followers of Christ we must be in His Spirit by being faithful to our covenant with our spouse, even when there is unfaithfulness and hurt; and bring healing to our spouse by our prayers, sacrifices and support. We must love our spouse just as Christ loves us (Eph 5:25).

Some people quote Matthew’s gospel (5:31-32) to justify divorce in case of unfaithfulness. The word in the Greek text for allowing divorce is porneia (which means incest or fornication). It referred to unlawful marriages between close relatives during Jesus’ time, which were unlawful (Leviticus 18:6-18), because they were incestuous (porneia). Note that the Greek word for adultery in verse 32 is moiceia (not porneia). The exception therefore is for unlawful marriages. ]]> General Christian Discussion surrendersacrifice http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2288 Lost Dog Found http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2287&goto=newpost Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:14:22 GMT Amid all the gloomy news from Afghanistan (and the fingers-on-chalkboard strategy debate), here’s a cheerful headline: An Australian Special Forces... Amid all the gloomy news from Afghanistan (and the fingers-on-chalkboard strategy debate), here’s a cheerful headline: An Australian Special Forces explosives-sniffing dog has been found alive in Afghanistan — more than a year after she went MIA in firefight.

According to a news release from the Australian military, Sabi, a Black Labrador, was found by a U.S. soldier at an isolated outpost in Oruzgan Province. Sabi had gone missing after a 2008 firefight in which nine Australian soldiers were wounded, including the dog’s handler. Trooper Mark Donaldson, a member of the Australian Special Air Service regiment, won a Victoria Cross for his actions during the battle.

It’s not clear from the news release who was taking care of Sabi, . . .

Lost Dog Found

Hans ]]> The Lounge HansC http://www.christianwebsite.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2287