Christian Homosexuality

[Benjie]

Yes. Not the ones I have been talking about, but others. They tend to believe that what if they are in a loving committed relationship, that's all that matters; that somehow the scriptures only apply to a promiscuous lifestyle; committing adulterous acts; not

The little that I have spoken with them about it, this is what I have heard as well. That's why I was wondering about the committed relationship part of the equation.

[historyb]

Has anyone talked to gay 'Christians' and gotten their take?

I have and when this person understood it was wrong they went celibate

[Philthy]

These things are the result of living in a fallen world; a world corrupted by sin that entered in by Adam.The propensity for sin is in all of us because of the fall. It's just in us. That doesn't mean that it's okay to make a sin a lifestyle and say , "well, it was just in me". That's utterly absurd.

Bingo! The "if it feels good do it" mentality took a strong hold in the USA with the social turmoil surrounding the 60's and some simply can't see it for what it is: a rationalization for satisfying sinful desires.

[dave]

Bingo! The "if it feels good do it" mentality took a strong hold in the USA with the social turmoil surrounding the 60's and some simply can't see it for what it is: a rationalization for satisfying sinful desires.

Amen! I once started a thread about that...didn't realize what kind of pot I was stirring...wow! And not all the opposition and argument was from non-Christians either.

[Titus]

There's no doubt that things accelerated in the 60's but we can't blame it all on the hippies. They only thing they really added to the equation was rock and roll and recreational drug use. What else happened in the sixties? No more prayer in schools.

[Hismanysongs]

There's no doubt that things accelerated in the 60's but we can't blame it all on the hippies. They only thing they really added to the equation was rock and roll and recreational drug use. What else happened in the sixties? No more prayer in schools.

Removing prayer. I remember singing a song in elementary school, Third grade I think, the chorus went: 'Rise and shine and give God the glory, glory'. And this in a suburban NY school. This would have been 1960-61.

The teacher would be brought up on charges if she did that today.

[Titus]

I rememmber up until about fifth grade which would have about 65, kids would volunteer to read Daily Bread right after we recited the Pledge of Allegiance. Sadly, those days will likely never be seen in the US again.

[other one]

I hear a lot about taking God out of our schools, but here In Oklahoma, I just don't see it. My wife was a kindergarten teacher for over 20 years and retired two years ago. They did the pledge of allegence to the flag every morning and I think something about the state. I know that her kids prayed in class off and on with no problems...... on occasions when school administrators were in the classroom. She was very "UP" on state laws. It is against our state laws for a teacher or administrator to stop a kid from praying unless they are stopping learning in the school (such as disrupting a class) Of course that never happened in my wife's classroom.
Notices were sent out to parents at the first of school informing them of the laws so the parents would know what to expect.... she never had any complaints about religon in her classroom.
If you want something really refreshing it is to be there when one of those 5 and 6 years talks about a mom, dad or brother being sick or hurt and could someone pray for them and half the class stops what they are doing and group up and pray for someone who needs it.

A few of us pray for the protection of our schools so this can continue... they only thing that I know of that they can't do is have a teacher/administrator lead kids in prayer..... and considering the differences in teachers in all places, that might not be a bad idea.

I've worked in some schools where some full blown dark side witches worked and we wouldn't want those folks leading out kids.
I know people who would not want a Jehovah's Witness person or some even a Mormon leading a prayer with their kids..... perosnally I can't go that far, but it can be a problem for some people