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    Quote Originally Posted by Titus View Post
    Oh I think it's obvious... One of Satan's favorite ploys is to take scripture out of context to support his perverted agenda. No difference here.
    Yeah, there's that.

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    Well, I'm not sure even the people that support gay marriage will turn out and vote on this issue,
    Really? Why wouldn't they jump on it?
    but Obama didn't lose any votes as you can't convince me anyone pretending to be offended by this would have voted for Obama
    so what offends God shouldn't offend real christians? You don't think Obama has alienated Christians by taking this stance? BB, why are you playing this down?

    Politically speaking, the only thing this did was force Mitt Romney to take a stand on the issue. I'm not sure myself what his policy on this would be, but many people associate Massachusetts with the issue as it was the first state to legalize gay marriage.
    Again, taking a blind eye to the issue at hand. The President of the United States endorses same sex marriage putting himself in a predicament with our country, and God.

    Of course it's the government's job to enforce morality, but they better not dare help the poor. That's the church's job!
    I like Tony Evans reply in both of these interviews:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titus View Post
    Naldacon, I am not the fool you believe me to be. Marriage is not a right. It is a privelege. This is not about changing the behavior of depraved homosexuals. This is about taking a stand for what is right in God's eyes. A man that endorses any marriage other than what God prescribes in His word is not a practicing Christian. A man that endorses abortion is not a practicing Christian. He is a Christian pretender. Such a man says in his heart, I do not care what God says. I will practice what I believe in my heart to be right and christian.It does not matter how God defines it.
    This is not about stopping any type of behavior. We can legislate behavior and all that does is define what types of behavior are legal and what types are not. We saw how well that worked with prohibition. All it did was to create a new generation of criminals. It won't change anyone's heart. You don't really believe that Christians are foolish enough to believe otherwise, do you? If you do, you're not nearly as smart as I thought you were.
    This is about standing up and saying, "I don't care what is politically correct if it is in opposition to God's word." This is about saying "I will stand with God, even if the whole world stands against me."

    I pray you wake up before it's too late. Homosexuality is a sin and God looks upon homosexual marriage a s a perversion of His word.
    Actually the case of Loving vs. Virginia enshrined marriage as a human right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JesusLovesYou View Post
    Really? Why wouldn't they jump on it? so what offends God shouldn't offend real christians? You don't think Obama has alienated Christians by taking this stance? BB, why are you playing this down?

    Again, taking a blind eye to the issue at hand. The President of the United States endorses same sex marriage putting himself in a predicament with our country, and God.

    I like Tony Evans reply in both of these interviews:

    http://www.blackchristiannews.com/ne...arly-that.html
    Actually God has never commented on Gay marriage at all. If you disagree, please show me the verse referring to Gay Marriage in the Bible.
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    He did address the act which is sinful and in Marriage couples mate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by historyb View Post
    He did address the act which is sinful and in Marriage couples mate.
    Well, as Titus would say, that was written to a certain people at a certain time to address a certain issue. Leviticus 18 is a warning not to adopt practices of a specific people who happened to practiced gay orgies as pagan worship. "One of Satan's favorite ploys is to take scripture out of context to support his perverted agenda. No difference here."

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    Quote Originally Posted by JesusLovesYou View Post
    Really? Why wouldn't they jump on it? so what offends God shouldn't offend real christians? You don't think Obama has alienated Christians by taking this stance? BB, why are you playing this down?

    Again, taking a blind eye to the issue at hand. The President of the United States endorses same sex marriage putting himself in a predicament with our country, and God.

    I like Tony Evans reply in both of these interviews:

    http://www.blackchristiannews.com/ne...arly-that.html
    The thing is this issue doesn't offend Christians outside of a congregation of two in deliverance country and the land of contrasts at CWS, and the president is in a predicament with the country? Last I checked more people supported gay marriage than oppose it (something like 47% in favor v. 40% opposed). It may put him in a predicament with the electorate for this cycle, but with the paradigm shifting 3-5 percentage points every year that issue won't be a problem for long.

    Check out what one highly regarded Republican pollster had to say on the issue: http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....ay-issues.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeyondBlessed View Post
    The thing is this issue doesn't offend Christians outside of a congregation of two in deliverance country and the land of contrasts at CWS, and the president is in a predicament with the country? Last I checked more people supported gay marriage than oppose it (something like 47% in favor v. 40% opposed). It may put him in a predicament with the electorate for this cycle, but with the paradigm shifting 3-5 percentage points every year that issue won't be a problem for long.

    Check out what one highly regarded Republican pollster had to say on the issue: http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....ay-issues.html
    God doesn't care about popular opinion, no matter how many times you post meaningless percentages. You still haven't explained your uncalled for comment in post #17.

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    Actually God has never commented on Gay marriage at all. If you disagree, please show me the verse referring to Gay Marriage in the Bible.
    Really, that's your reply? I'm not new to you around these courts, nor have I been silent on my stand. I guess you never heard in Genesis when God made Adam & Eve He was making a statement on the matter.

    Here's a video of Ravi to think about:
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    Quote Originally Posted by BB
    The thing is this issue doesn't offend Christians outside of a congregation of two in deliverance country and the land of contrasts at CWS, and the president is in a predicament with the country? Last I checked more people supported gay marriage than oppose it (something like 47% in favor v. 40% opposed). It may put him in a predicament with the electorate for this cycle, but with the paradigm shifting 3-5 percentage points every year that issue won't be a problem for long.
    His wishy washiness on the issue shows he cannot be trusted by the people, or for the people. His views change on a whim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeyondBlessed View Post
    Well, as Titus would say, that was written to a certain people at a certain time to address a certain issue. Leviticus 18 is a warning not to adopt practices of a specific people who happened to practiced gay orgies as pagan worship. "One of Satan's favorite ploys is to take scripture out of context to support his perverted agenda. No difference here."
    Try Romans 126 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.
    Try Hebrews 13:4 Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous.
    Try Matthew 19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
    6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

    Perhaps you can producs a scripture that says a man shall leave his father and mother and cleave unto his husband? Nice try skippy, but no cigar.

 

 

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