The Book of Life.

[2KnowHim]

No one can be saved by the Law, regardless of Jew or Gentile. Faith is counted as righteousness! Without faith we cannot please God.

Faith is ONLY necessary in this Physical Realm, but when you KNOW by Experience you have, what you have only read about, then you don't need faith for that anymore, now do you? Real Faith is being persuaded by the Holy Spirit that they are Truth. Most only have a wishful hoping. Real Faith sees and receives what can not be seen in the Natural.

You have a choice, being judged by the Law or by being judged based on the Righteousness of Christ. He who live by the Law will die by the Law. Do you not know that God is a Just God? He would never force anyone to come into His Kingdom who does not love Him.

Love is not forced, Ever, it just happens, when you KNOW how much someone Loves you.
It's not about me loving Him, Revelation comes out of KNOWING how much He Loves me.
Why do you think John continually referred to himself as the disciple Jesus loved? Not only that but was able to show us The Revelation of Jesus Christ within him? You must be able to Experience these things "IN YOU" in order to understand what has been written.

Thank you Lord Jesus that you draw all men unto you. It is sad that there will be those who reject that drawing.

They can only reject for so long. And that word draw, is DRAG in the Greek, that implies much more than a gentle drawing.



This is not in scripture!
Rom 8:24-25 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? (25) But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
Are you saying Paul didn't see "all, was accomplished in Him"?

Of course he did, why do you think he was able to say such a thing? Paul also saw and experience things that he could not speak about too. It is those things, that we should All be partaking of the same as he did, but not All are. Because they are still putting off to a future day, what could be enjoyed here and now in the kingdom.


Jesus has tasted death for every man. Not every man will take advantage of that "death". Not every man will love being in subjection under Jesus, and He will not force them to love it.

That is coming out of your natural thinking, not out of the Spirit of Christ. When they all bow the knee, it is to the Glory of the Father, and they are confessing That Jesus Christ is Lord, there is ONLY one way to do that, and that is by the Power of the Holy Spirit.
Make no mistake, it is in joy that they do this.

[Israel]

While we do know that the Spirit was poured out on ALL flesh that day, we also understand that only 120 received it at that point. Certainly others received it after that, but always and only a small number.

Certainly it rains on ALL
but NOT all get wet.

This statement sounds wonderful, but of whom water has touched, and have not wet up?

[HisDaughter]

Faith is ONLY necessary in this Physical Realm, but when you KNOW by Experience you have, what you have only read about, then you don't need faith for that anymore, now do you?

No you don't need it once you experience it, but we are still in the physical realm therefore a need of faith.

Real Faith is being persuaded by the Holy Spirit that they are Truth. Most only have a wishful hoping. Real Faith sees and receives what can not be seen in the Natural.

Who is "they"? You are not giving scripture you are saying something that is coming out of your flesh. This is what scripture says: Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Scripture says nothing of being "persuaded" by the Holy Spirit. Your words not scripture!

Love is not forced, Ever, it just happens, when you KNOW how much someone Loves you.

Who says? Show me this in scripture!

They can only reject for so long. And that word draw, is DRAG in the Greek, that implies much more than a gentle drawing.

Have you ever heard the saying "You can take a horse to water but you can't make him drink". Drag/Draw... same thing... LOL You can "drag" anyone to what ever but that doesn't mean they will except.

Of course he did, why do you think he was able to say such a thing? Paul also saw and experience things that he could not speak about too. It is those things, that we should All be partaking of the same as he did, but not All are. Because they are still putting off to a future day, what could be enjoyed here and now in the kingdom.

You are taking in circles... LOL

You said: And this was 2,000 yrs ago, and yet people are still waiting for it, why? Because mainly "you do not SEE HIM" and what All, was
accomplished in Him.

My point is that Paul was also "still waiting". So how can you say "of course". Was Paul putting off to a future day, what could be enjoyed there and then?

It's not about me loving Him, Revelation comes out of KNOWING how much He Loves me.
Why do you think John continually referred to himself as the disciple Jesus loved? Not only that but was able to show us The Revelation of Jesus Christ within him? You must be able to Experience these things "IN YOU" in order to understand what has been written.

You don't know me... LOL Ohhh my, "written between the lines" Sounds like you are adding to scripture.

That is coming out of your natural thinking, not out of the Spirit of Christ. When they all bow the knee, it is to the Glory of the Father, and they are confessing That Jesus Christ is Lord, there is ONLY one way to do that, and that is by the Power of the Holy Spirit.
Make no mistake, it is in joy that they do this.

Again you don't know me... LOL

I am not sure why I picked this up. It is not worth reasoning with someone who cannot make a reasonable conclusion. You are not of the Holy Spirit that dwells in me.

I am done... this was a waste of my time.

[2KnowHim]

Who is "they"? You are not giving scripture you are saying something that is coming out of your flesh. This is what scripture says: Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

I was referring to things that we read about, the promises of God. Not who, but what.

[Israel]

Have you not read that He took captivity CAPTIVE? And for some strange reason you keep believing in YOUR free will. you're not here for you boo boo. We are SERVANTS! SLAVES either to Christ or the enemy. We are made for His good pleasure, or do I need to post scripture from the book you say you are no longer under?

I will always be amazed in not that you do not believe the message (that is your right), but to call it evil that He is indeed the savior of the world.

You were once a sinner correct? But you say you are washed because you have faith and believe. And those that are lost, these "devils" (myself and 2knowHim) have no faith and do not believe. But even the devils believe! Again out of the same book you are under it says that EVERYMAN was dealt a measure of faith. But instead of reconciling the potholes in YOUR doctrine and getting rid of every burden, you'd rather assume that mishap never happened and we are both still delusional.

[HisDaughter]

I was referring to things that we read about, the promises of God. Not who, but what.

The problem is that you don't speak of what you have read in scripture "the promises of God". You miss quote and take out of context, and add to (reading between the lines) "promises" that are not in scripture.

Satan did this in the garden and he did it to try to temp Jesus. Jesus didn't read between the lines and give him any other answer except what came from scripture. This is where I get my example of experience from. Not some made super spiritual "you don't have it" answer.

What I have is The Holy Spirit, Jesus the Son of God in me to lead me from His Word, The Scriptures to lead me with Truth. If I don't have what you have... I thank God I don't! My joy is Jesus Christ!

[2KnowHim]

The problem is that you don't speak of what you have read in scripture "the promises of God". You miss quote and take out of context, and add to (reading between the lines) "promises" that are not in scripture.

No, not reading between the lines so much, as seeing beneath the surface of what is written.
Again I have assumed you know the scriptures, why would you need me to quote them, you would see what I see in them anyhow.

For example, when it says:
1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

When I read this I see the same "All" in Adam, is the same "All" in Christ.
But when you read this, you see "All" in Adam die, but you only see those who choose Christ shall be
made alive.

So what since would it make to throw scripture at one another if we can not see them the same?



Satan did this in the garden and he did it to try to temp Jesus. Jesus didn't read between the lines and give him any other answer except what came from scripture. This is where I get my example of experience from. Not some made super spiritual "you don't have it" answer.

God's word is Spirit, and takes the Spirit to interpret it. Here again I see something entirely different than you.


What I have is The Holy Spirit, Jesus the Son of God in me to lead me from His Word, The Scriptures to lead me with Truth. If I don't have what you have... I thank God I don't! My joy is Jesus Christ!

Well, good for you, you have faith have it before God, but there is no shame in saying we still have room to Grow, I know I do.
And you do not need to prove the Truth, it just is, and will always be, Truth, for it is not something that is written, But it is the nature of God. Do you really think that everything about God is contained in the bible?

[HisDaughter]

No, not reading between the lines so much, as seeing beneath the surface of what is written.
Again I have assumed you know the scriptures, why would you need me to quote them, you would see what I see in them anyhow.

Satan used scripture... he knew scripture... yet Christ answered Him with Scripture. We are to be Christ like.

For example, when it says:
1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

When I read this I see the same "All" in Adam, is the same "All" in Christ.
But when you read this, you see "All" in Adam die, but you only see those who choose Christ shall be
made alive.

The reason for requesting scripture is to understand where you are coming from. It is obvious you are taking snips of scripture to make they say what fits your, not the Spirits intent. See the scripture you quote 1 Co 15:22 you are not taking into context. In context "all" to be made alive is referenced before this verse. IN vs 1Co 15:18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.

The "all" are those who are "in Christ".

So what since would it make to throw scripture at one another if we can not see them the same?

Is that how you see quoting scripture as to "throw" it at each other. Is that what Jesus and Satan did?

Well, good for you, you have faith have it before God, but there is no shame in saying we still have room to Grow, I know I do.
And you do not need to prove the Truth, it just is, and will always be, Truth, for it is not something that is written, But it is the nature of God. Do you really think that everything about God is contained in the bible?

Who has said they have learned all to be learned? This an accusation in arrogance. Is this how you read between the lines or what is deep beneath the lines? Truth has already been proven in God's Word. We are to "try every spirit" because there are false prophets.
1Jn_4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Just because you say scripture says this and that, I will follow the directive to try that spirit. The spirit is tried with the Word of God. The Bible is like a yard stick, like a tool to use to discern the Truth of what any man/preacher says. If what that man/preacher says doesn't measure up to the Truth that is in the Bible then it is incorrect info. The Bible was given so that we would not follow every wind of doctrin of man or of demons. Jesus never deviated from the words of the Prophets of God. He was always in line with them.

[2KnowHim]

Joh 5:39 Search [as a hound tracks by the scent] the Scriptures [sacred writings]; for in them ye think ye have everlasting life: and they [the Scriptures] are they which testify concerning Me.
Joh 5:40 And ye do not will to come to Me, in order that ye may have the fountain of life .

Joh 5:39 `Ye search the Writings, because ye think in them to have life age-during, and these are they that are testifying concerning me;
Joh 5:40 and ye do not will to come unto me, that ye may have life;


The Life of Christ does not come through knowing Scriptures, Life, and Truth comes through Relationship with the Son.
He is The Truth, there is no other way to come to The Father, except through Him, "The Truth", Truth is The nature of The Son.

He who has the Son, "The Truth" has Life.

1Jn 5:11 and this is the testimony, that life age-during did God give to us, and this--the life--is in His Son;
1Jn 5:12 he who is having the Son, hath the life; he who is not having the Son of God--the life he hath not.