US Supreme Court health care ruling

[BeyondBlessed]

You pay the government for your health insurance? No, I realize SSID doesn't automatically qualify for you for Medicaid, but it's very typical. Whatever the case, you're lying to blame what you're paying on the ACA and there is no way to justify your claims. Direct your anger to your state legislator because the federal government requires nothing of you. The exchanges that would sell you qualifying insurance has until Jan. 2013 to set it up, and your state (if that's still Pennsylvania) has said they will not meet that deadline. Actually they haven't even defined what qualifying insurance is yet, only 22 states have.

Like most your opposition to this bill is based on your blind hatred of the president, and like most opposed to the bill you do not even know what it is.

[other one]

So, what's your reaction? There seems to be alot of emotion going around about it.
I'm troubled by both the pros & cons I hear on it.


The fight against Obamacare isn't over yet
http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2500900

I think Roberts just told us that we shouldn't expect the supreme court to take care of our bad decisions. They defined what was legal and threw out what was not, and if we don't like it it is our responsiblility to fix it in November, not thiers. They don't decide what laws are good and what laws are bad, just which ones are constitutional and which are not. So if you don't like the bill, then use the constitution come November and fix our own mistake.

Translated to Okie langage, "Don't ask me to fix your screw up's"

[strongcuppajoe]

I cannot find anyone to tell me how it works, the only thing I know is there is no cost protection for us the idiots who have to buy insurance.. I am still out of work (I gave up looking, after a year it is a waste of time) With diabetes and hypertension they cannot tell me NO but they can and will jack the rate.. And well the last estimate will be $28,800 a year for Blue Cross / Blue Shield so I have to have a second job just to have insurance.. L O L

[other one]

I cannot find anyone to tell me how it works, the only thing I know is there is no cost protection for us the idiots who have to buy insurance.. I am still out of work (I gave up looking, after a year it is a waste of time) With diabetes and hypertension they cannot tell me NO but they can and will jack the rate.. And well the last estimate will be $28,800 a year for Blue Cross / Blue Shield so I have to have a second job just to have insurance.. L O L

My wife has blue cross Empire. it has kind of high deductables but it only costs about 250 dollars a month. that's 3,000 dollars a year.... and she has MS. If you are not working and have a low income, the government will help you with the Premiums or get you on medicaid.... depending on where you live. each state is different...

[other one]

You don't know what you're talking about. SSID does not automatically qualify one for Medicaid. My fixed income comes from the taxes I paid for 40+ years of working. I'm so glad that I only have to pay $75 a month; I'll advise the government of their mistake in charging me $120. How much money would you be willing to put on getting me dentures?

medicaid is a state program, and each state is different in what coverage exists and how much it costs...

[BeyondBlessed]

Right now 15 states, all Republican controlled, are saying they will not participate in the Medicaid expansion. Medicaid in Indiana is useless as it is now. A family of four can not make more than $350 a month and cannot have more than $1,000 in the bank, so it's pretty much just for children to meet the bare minimum requirements to receive federal funding. When I was in the hospital a few years back for four days the bill came to $30,000, so sure, a family of four with a $1,000 in the bank and making $350 a month should be just fine covering that. By keeping Medicaid irrelevant, due to unrealistic requirements, we've really just hurt providers and they end up moving to the bordering states--to places like Cincinnati, Dayton, Chicago, and even Louisville because Kentucky has a more generous Medicaid program, and all the little towns in between. This is the way conservatives work, they only see the costs and never the benefit to these types of programs.

Check out this nugget from yesterday.

Texas ranks worst in the nation in health care services and delivery, according to an annual scorecard issued by the federal Agency for Health Care Research and Quality.
In nine out of 12 categories, Texas rated weak or very weak. The only area where Texas earned the above average ranking of "strong" was in maternal and child health care measures. Out of a possible 100 points, Texas earned 31.61, while Minnesota, the highest ranking state, scored 67.31.

...and one reason why...

The Texas Medicaid law for the disabled and poor offers one of the most limited health care programs in the nation, and more than 25 percent of Texans do not have health insurance of any kind, which is the highest uninsured rate in the nation.
The poor state of the Texas health care system has particular relevance as state lawmakers begin to consider how to respond now that President Barack Obama's federal health care overhaul has been upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court.
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-styl...#ixzz1zykOBS4Y

Good thing we made sure all those illegal immigrants won't be covered or be able to buy coverage in any exchange created by Obamacare. We saved a boatload there.

I should point out that the ACA originally compelled states to extend Medicaid to people making 130% of the poverty level with the same matching funds they get now. If your state does not do this, and if they don't it won't be Obama's fault, persons making less than that amount and not qualifying for Medicaid will not be getting any help. The aid for low-income persons to help purchase insurance is for those making between 130-400% of the poverty level.

[BeyondBlessed]

I cannot find anyone to tell me how it works, the only thing I know is there is no cost protection for us the idiots who have to buy insurance.. I am still out of work (I gave up looking, after a year it is a waste of time) With diabetes and hypertension they cannot tell me NO but they can and will jack the rate.. And well the last estimate will be $28,800 a year for Blue Cross / Blue Shield so I have to have a second job just to have insurance.. L O L

Try a local company. When I was working at a gas station without insurance I found a local company that insured me for $90 a month. Anthem wanted about $150, and this was back in 2003. It was the same coverage (80/20 with a $500 deductible), but I could only to go one hospital locally and a handful of clinics otherwise it would be out of network and I'd have to pay half.

[strongcuppajoe]

My wife has blue cross Empire. it has kind of high deductables but it only costs about 250 dollars a month. that's 3,000 dollars a year.... and she has MS. If you are not working and have a low income, the government will help you with the Premiums or get you on medicaid.... depending on where you live. each state is different...

Yeah, I have been to the state offices and basically was told my wife currently makes to much money so if we separated THEN at least I could get help.. wanted to jerk someone out from behind her desk by her weave...

Try a local company. When I was working at a gas station without insurance I found a local company that insured me for $90 a month. Anthem wanted about $150, and this was back in 2003. It was the same coverage (80/20 with a $500 deductible), but I could only to go one hospital locally and a handful of clinics otherwise it would be out of network and I'd have to pay half.

$300 a month right now for me with a $4000 deductible.. LOL if I had $4000 to throw around probably might not need insurance at all.. but with my wife's paycheck barley covering the bills, she has sold her vacation time back now for 3 years (should have NEVER gone back to school, if you are thinking about it DON'T) to help cover bills because of me.. we cannot afford to look at it or get coverage for the both of us.. may have to wait for the security forces to come get us or at least me..

[other one]

Yeah, I have been to the state offices and basically was told my wife currently makes to much money so if we separated THEN at least I could get help.. wanted to jerk someone out from behind her desk by her weave...



$300 a month right now for me with a $4000 deductible.. LOL if I had $4000 to throw around probably might not need insurance at all.. but with my wife's paycheck barley covering the bills, she has sold her vacation time back now for 3 years (should have NEVER gone back to school, if you are thinking about it DON'T) to help cover bills because of me.. we cannot afford to look at it or get coverage for the both of us.. may have to wait for the security forces to come get us or at least me..

Yeah, but here's what most people don't understand.

We had two ER visits this year for her and the average cost was quoted by the hospitals at about $2,500 each for a total of $5,000. However the insurance companies had contracted the hospitals for those proceedures for a total of about $500 or less for each visit. So instead of them billing me $5,000, I only had to pay $1,000. Since my wife takes a drug that costs a tad bit less than $12,000 a quarter, we hit the max out of pocket in January. Save up all year to make that first payment and do so pre tax to save a bit more.

Now if you can offort to pay the visits when you really get sick, then you don't need insurance....... but if you can't then why don't you let someone help with the premiums so neither of us has to pay that outrageous cost.

[strongcuppajoe]

Yeah, but here's what most people don't understand.

We had two ER visits this year for her and the average cost was quoted by the hospitals at about $2,500 each for a total of $5,000. However the insurance companies had contracted the hospitals for those proceedures for a total of about $500 or less for each visit. So instead of them billing me $5,000, I only had to pay $1,000. Since my wife takes a drug that costs a tad bit less than $12,000 a quarter, we hit the max out of pocket in January. Save up all year to make that first payment and do so pre tax to save a bit more.

Now if you can offort to pay the visits when you really get sick, then you don't need insurance....... but if you can't then why don't you let someone help with the premiums so neither of us has to pay that outrageous cost.

Right, now I currently go to the county health clinic and I pay 75% of the cost for whatever is done which is high, you know I'll say it again it isn't that I do not want insurance I cannot afford it!! point blank, I have no job and I have quit looking, in my field (waste of time going to school complete WASTE!) if you are female you get the job they tell me to take whatever I can get (which I have also applied for) and then I think well if I take the job two steps down then I have to prove myself for the tow bumps up were as the women come in and are hired right away