Is the Bible written TO modern mankind?

[historyb]

I don't see in any time in history that the Ezekiel 38 conflict has occurred.
Nor has anything even remotely to the aftermath of Ezekiel 38 happened.



Besides the angel spoke to John of TWO more kingdoms to come AFTER Rome.
AFTER Rome speaks naturally to the future from John's perspective.

Christ's return is a return in the midst of a stage of conflict.
The stage as it now is set, has never been set in this manner before.


This conflict will be in the Middle East.
For details read Ezekiel 38.

I use to believe such silliness too. I see futurism as bad and dispensationalism as a bad thing and extremely American centric, every time there is some kind of conflict against Americans the goal post always moves like with the USSR was around they were the big baddie that the Anti-Christ came from, now muslims are the bid baddies and the Anti-Christ will come from them. The next big baddie after the muslims going against America is where the Anti-Christ will come from. So forth and so on.

The Bible was never written with the 21st Century America in mind, it was written to that place and the culture of the time.

[RoyS]

I use to believe such silliness too. I see futurism as bad and dispensationalism as a bad thing and extremely American centric, every time there is some kind of conflict against Americans the goal post always moves like with the USSR was around they were the big baddie that the Anti-Christ came from, now muslims are the bid baddies and the Anti-Christ will come from them. The next big baddie after the muslims going against America is where the Anti-Christ will come from. So forth and so on.

The Bible was never written with the 21st Century America in mind, it was written to that place and the culture of the time.

Seriously? So, you are saying that God did not mean for His word to apply into the 21st century? Why are we even on a CHRISTIAN site, then? Why bother studying the Bible, if it wasn't meant for us? Did God not know that we would be around this long, or did He figure that only the people alive when He gave us His word were worth guiding? Did God not know that the world would evolve as it has?

[historyb]

Seriously? So, you are saying that God did not mean for His word to apply into the 21st century? Why are we even on a CHRISTIAN site, then? Why bother studying the Bible, if it wasn't meant for us? Did God not know that we would be around this long, or did He figure that only the people alive when He gave us His word were worth guiding? Did God not know that the world would evolve as it has?

The Bible was not written yo us it is for us

[RoyS]

The Bible was not written yo us it is for us

Again, seriously? If the Bible was not written to us, then we don't have to follow it. If it was just written for us, we can read it like a novel. If it was only written for the people alive at the time, then it's of no use to those who came after. Do you realize how ridiculous that position is? I guess all Biblical prophesy has come to pass, then, and we are just living in some 'futureworld' that God didn't care to address.

[historyb]

Again, seriously? If the Bible was not written to us, then we don't have to follow it. If it was just written for us, we can read it like a novel. If it was only written for the people alive at the time, then it's of no use to those who came after. Do you realize how ridiculous that position is? I guess all Biblical prophesy has come to pass, then, and we are just living in some 'futureworld' that God didn't care to address.

Yes I do believe most all Bible prophecy has passed as I explained many times before. I am a partial Preterist I believe that the only thing left is Christ to come back as the Angel said in Acts 1 and I do not believe the Bible is written directly to us in 21st Century America I believe as Paul told Timothy in 2 Tim 3:16:

All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right. God uses it to prepare and equip his people to do every good work.

2 Tim 3:16-17 NLT

[RoyS]

Yes I do believe most all Bible prophecy has passed as I explained many times before. I am a partial Preterist I believe that the only thing left is Christ to come back as the Angel said in Acts 1 and I do not believe the Bible is written directly to us in 21st Century America I believe as Paul told Timothy in 2 Tim 3:16:

All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right. God uses it to prepare and equip his people to do every good work.


2 Tim 3:16-17 NLT

Well, yeah, but that was written for the people of that time. According to your position, it has nothing to do with the people living in the 21st century.

[historyb]

Well, yeah, but that was written for the people of that time. According to your position, it has nothing to do with the people living in the 21st century.

Misrepresentation, I said it was not written directly to 21st century Americans. The Bible is God's plan of Salvation laid out for us and how we should act as Christians, it was written for us not to us.

[RoyS]

Misrepresentation, I said it was not written directly to 21st century Americans. The Bible is God's plan of Salvation laid out for us and how we should act as Christians, it was written for us not to us.

You're talking in circles. Either the Bible is written to all of humanity, or it's not. Of course the language is different than we are familiar with today, but, the MESSAGE is what is important. If, as you claim, the Bible was only directed to 'the people of that time', then we've been fooled for 2000 years. I seriously doubt that. I don't picture God as much of a prankster (other than the duckbilled platypus).

[historyb]

You're talking in circles. Either the Bible is written to all of humanity, or it's not. Of course the language is different than we are familiar with today, but, the MESSAGE is what is important. If, as you claim, the Bible was only directed to 'the people of that time', then we've been fooled for 2000 years. I seriously doubt that. I don't picture God as much of a prankster (other than the duckbilled platypus).

No, your thinking to hard. It should be plain that the Bible was not written directly to us, that is the height of arrogance. The writers did not sit down and say "hmm, let me write to Roy in the 21st century". It has been explained before and Titus did a good explanation. The Bible is not written directly to us, it was written in the culture of the time but it was written for us. If you can't figure it out no one can help you

[Hansc]

every time there is some kind of conflict against Americans the goal post always moves like with the USSR was around they were the big baddie that the Anti-Christ came from, now muslims are the bid baddies and the Anti-Christ will come from them. The next big baddie after the muslims going against America is where the Anti-Christ will come from

The real question is what does the Bible actually say? That has NOT changed.


So from your post, I am supposed to believe that Ezekiel 38-39 has already happened?

Do you honestly think Ezekiel 39 has already happened, or is this something someone told you?