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Old 11-03-2009, 10:18 AM   #61
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Our body was not made for non organic foods. We have survived thousands of years eating organic food then we listen to scientists who say that we cannot survive without genetic engineering, those same scientists that put chemicals in our foods, those same scientists that created processed foods, and we get sicker and more unhealthy, we get cancers, diabetes, heart diseases, fibroids, cysts, then we buy medication over and over again to fix ourselves so pharmaceuticals makes millions from our sicknesses and diseases. And we think that all is well, eat anything and everything ignoring the fact that scientists involvement with food never amount to anything good. Scientists should never be interfering with our food.
Even in the days of Christ they had processed food. They salted meat and other items as a way of preserving it. The smoked meat to preserve it. I imagine they had a few other tricks up their sleeves as well.
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Old 11-03-2009, 10:55 AM   #62
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Even in the days of Christ they had processed food. They salted meat and other items as a way of preserving it. The smoked meat to preserve it. I imagine they had a few other tricks up their sleeves as well.
There is absolutely no problem with preserving meats using salt as long as it is not oversalted, what is a problem is that processed foods has chemicals.


Read the articles below:


http://www.articlesbase.com/health-a...ds-609388.html


http://www.rd.com/living-healthy/4-m...icle14901.html

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Old 11-03-2009, 02:48 PM   #63
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Old 11-05-2009, 01:12 AM   #64
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Oops...I initially put this in the wrong place....

t's great to have the space and time to grow one's own food. Nothing tastes better than a handful of peas just picked and shucked from their pods or sweetcorn tossed on the grill five minutes after it has been picked.

However, even if you grow your own, the seeds you buy are products of genetic engineering. There's been a lot of hoopla about "heritage tomatoes" yet even those seeds are hybrids. The original tomatoes that came out of South America to Europe were immediately recognized as members of the deadly nightshade family by the shape of their flowers, leaves and tiny red fruits. European botanists and gardeners tinkered with the plants to grow larger, more decorative fruits for nearly a hundred years before they realized that the fruits were not only edible but delicious.

The simple fact is, whether a plant is organic or not, whether a meat animal has been raised drug-free and on organic pasture or not, there is absolutely nothing you can eat that is commercially produced for food that is not a product in some way of hybridization, and hybridization is just another name for genetic engineering.
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That's bout it. And no one is escaping this earth alive either.
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Old 11-05-2009, 09:51 AM   #66
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Oops...I initially put this in the wrong place....

t's great to have the space and time to grow one's own food. Nothing tastes better than a handful of peas just picked and shucked from their pods or sweetcorn tossed on the grill five minutes after it has been picked.

However, even if you grow your own, the seeds you buy are products of genetic engineering. There's been a lot of hoopla about "heritage tomatoes" yet even those seeds are hybrids. The original tomatoes that came out of South America to Europe were immediately recognized as members of the deadly nightshade family by the shape of their flowers, leaves and tiny red fruits. European botanists and gardeners tinkered with the plants to grow larger, more decorative fruits for nearly a hundred years before they realized that the fruits were not only edible but delicious.

The simple fact is, whether a plant is organic or not, whether a meat animal has been raised drug-free and on organic pasture or not, there is absolutely nothing you can eat that is commercially produced for food that is not a product in some way of hybridization, and hybridization is just another name for genetic engineering.

The above is not true Unclaimed Treasure. Yes there are many seeds that are hybrid seeds but there are also organic non hybrid seeds available to buy as well. So guess what there are many products out there that is in no way a product of hybridization

Let me post two links to two articles about hybrid seeds and see how much you and everybody else still have no problem with genetic engineeering.


http://ezinearticles.com/?Non-Hybrid...eds&id=2412393

http://www.squidoo.com/heirloom-non-hybrid-seeds


You put your trust and faith in scientists so much it is unbelieveable. You choose to ignore warnings signs that many foods we eat are bad for us and cause us to get all kinds of sickness and that organic foods without the preservatives, colouring, chemicals, genetic engineering are healthier and safer and also normal. You choose to ignore the truth because who cares right, scientists can manipulate our food anyway they want to and there is absolutely no consequence right. Why give people unnatural unhealthier foods I wonder, why replace the good with the bad, do scientists care people are sicker now than they were years ago. Why should they care right, it's all the name of science, one small leap for man right, anything to pump up the human race to make us feel we know everything and that we control the world when we don't. Do we remember the tower of babel or have we forgotten, have we forgotten about what was prophesied in Revelation and in other areas of the bible.
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I also need to mention something as well. Genetic Engineering did occur in biblical times as well when the sons of God (angels) had children with human women. The offspring of humans and angels became known as the giants, the nephilim, the anakim.

Genesis 6 verses 1-6:

1] And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
[2] That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
[3] And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
[4] There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
[5] And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
[6] And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
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You have no idea than what genetic engineering is then, there was no such thing back then. Your on a fool's errand who cares about our food, the Gospel is more important. Your also making a classic mistake, there is no indication that that was wrong, in fact the nephilim where the hero's of old not the enemies, in fact God said his spirit would not always be with man it says nothing about what God said about the nephilim
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You have no idea than what genetic engineering is then, there was no such thing back then. Your on a fool's errand who cares about our food, the Gospel is more important. Your also making a classic mistake, there is no indication that that was wrong, in fact the nephilim where the hero's of old not the enemies, in fact God said his spirit would not always be with man it says nothing about what God said about the nephilim

Who were the sons of God historyb?


Job 1 verses 6-12:

[6] Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
[7] And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
[8] And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
[9] Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
[10] Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.
[11] But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.
[12] And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.
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Old 11-05-2009, 05:19 PM   #70
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You have no idea than what genetic engineering is then, there was no such thing back then. Your on a fool's errand who cares about our food, the Gospel is more important. Your also making a classic mistake, there is no indication that that was wrong, in fact the nephilim where the hero's of old not the enemies, in fact God said his spirit would not always be with man it says nothing about what God said about the nephilim
And by the way Historyb the reason why they were called mighty men and men of fame is because of their height. They were extremely tall.

Historyb angels taking women as wives is completely wrong and it was and is against every single thing that God stands for. Those angels had fallen away from God, they had rebelled against God and as a result they did things that they were not created for. It is also no wonder that when they came to present themselves before the Lord Satan also came amongst them.

Historyb haven't you also noticed that the giants came up against men of God in the bible.


I find the following description of a giant very very interesting.


2 Samuel 21 verses 16-22:

[16] And Ishbi-benob, which was of the sons of the giant, the weight of whose spear weighed three hundred shekels of brass in weight, he being girded with a new sword, thought to have slain David.
[17] But Abishai the son of Zeruiah succoured him, and smote the Philistine, and killed him. Then the men of David sware unto him, saying, Thou shalt go no more out with us to battle, that thou quench not the light of Israel.
[18] And it came to pass after this, that there was again a battle with the Philistines at Gob: then Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Saph, which was of the sons of the giant.
[19] And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver's beam.
[20] And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant.
[21] And when he defied Israel, Jonathan the son of Shimea the brother of David slew him.
[22] These four were born to the giant in Gath, and fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants.

In verse 20 you find a giant that had 6 fingers on each hand, 6 toes on each feet (genetic mutation obviously and abnormalities). Also the 6 fingers on each hand, the 6 fingers on each toes equals to 666666 666666 666666 666666 which reminds me of the number of the beast in Revelation.

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