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Originally Posted by JesusLovesYou
Uhm hb, I think its poppy cock, lol. 
Wow, I just read through the whole thread.  Roses, I think if you're not careful, you can appear legalistic on the issue.
Seedless watermelons, grapes, and tangelos have been a delightful experience. 
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I pretty much agree with most, and some of what you bring to the table, but I think some can fall to the legalistic side if we're not careful. My feelings are that we've been spared from much, and this world is not our home. We are suffering its fallen nature since the beginning of time. You ask if it's 'biblical' and that you have studied, but when you bring your discussion to the table, its only view is from the OT, and not from where the NT stands where we're not to make it a stumbling block for your neighbor, or call it unclean, if God called it clean, and good. I think this is where God allowed it to come into play and glorify Him, not just because man made it, but man got his ability to do so from God. So, take it or leave it with a grain of salt, or none. |
I don't want to be legalistic or anything but we humans need to establish boundaries for ourselves and the word of God helps us greatly with that.
I consider the following scriptures:
Romans 5 verses 9-21:
[9] Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
[10] For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
[11] And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.
[12] Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
[13] (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
[14] Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
[15] But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
[16] And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
[17] For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
[18] Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
[19] For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
[20] Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
[21] That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
Notice what Romans 6 says after:
[1] What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
[2] God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
[3] Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
[4] Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
[5] For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
[6] Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
[7] For he that is dead is freed from sin.
[8] Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
[9] Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
[10] For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
[11] Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
[12] Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
[13] Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
[14] For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
[15] What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
[16] Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
[17] But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
[18] Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
[19] I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.
[20] For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.
[21] What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.
[22] But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
[23] For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Although the above scriptures is talking about sin it is very important to note that we should not use grace as an excuse to live any way which we please. There has to be boundaries.
1 Corinthians 10 verse 23 says:
[23] All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.
Although all things are lawful for us, not all things are beneficial to us, not all things are good for us.
I am going to share something that happened recently. One of my relatives has diabetes and she handed me a soda and asked me if it was sugar free I told her that it was not sugar free, I told her that she shouldn't be drinking soda, I told her she shouldn't even drink diet soda because it is bad for her. She was not happy with what I said and a little while after took the soda poured most of it in her cup. She drank a little soda from her cup, as she got up her hand accidentally hit over most of the soda, the soda spilled and messed up everywhere. I explained to her that she knows that she has diabetes and she should not drink soda I told her that she chose not to listen to what I say and because of that not only has the soda spilled but because it made a big mess then she was stuck cleaning it up (although I helped her a bit). It was a lesson that I hoped she learned, I thanked God after the soda spilled because if she drank that soda her diabetes would have gone up and she could have gotten very sick.
I have talked extensively about genetic engineering so I won't go over that again.
I must also mention something that I have noticed as well, in various false religions and myths of the world hybrids are also apart of popular folklore as well. For instance the Phillistines worshipped dagon who was depicted as being half man and half fish (merman), the Assyrian shedu was half human, half bull, Hercules was said to be born of a human mother as well as of a god.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_(mythology)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules
I believe the veneration of these hybrids are in fact demonic and an extention of what went on in Genesis 6 when humans and fallen angels had children and these giants were popular. As God dispersed people as a result of the tower of babel many people became far from God, these giants became part of people's idolization and they were seen as gods and venerated. In Revelation I believe that if carefully examined their is a connection between hybrids (unholy unions) and the beast and the whore of babylon.
There is so much to be discovered in the bible.
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