Giant Crack in Africa Will Create a New Ocean

[BeyondBlessed]

I can't believe we don't have any pre-Adamites here.

[Titus]

Originally Posted by eyewtkas

Umm, no. The crack didn't appear until 2005. Therefore the crack has only been widening for 4 years.

Who's proving themselves wrong?

The article said that the rift had been growing at less than an inch a year for 30,000,000 years. And the crack doesn't open til 2005? You have some pretty strong but blind faith in the science you follow.

[historyb]

Originally Posted by eyewtkas

In other words, it doesn't.

It does. I'll explain but I don't expect a non believer to understand. It begins in Gensis with God creating the earth in six days.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/ is your best resource

[eyewtkas]

Originally Posted by Titus

The article said that the rift had been growing at less than an inch a year for 30,000,000 years. And the crack doesn't open til 2005? You have some pretty strong but blind faith in the science you follow.

No blind faith involved, Titus. Perhaps you should re-read the article, it doesn't say the new rift has been growing by less than an inch for 30 million year, it says the African and Arabian plates have been, forming the read sea etc.

From an additional article:

The African and Arabian plates meet in the remote Afar desert of Northern Ethiopia and have been going through a rifting process—at a speed of less than 1 inch per year—for the past 30 million years. This rifting formed the 186-mile Afar depression [image] and the Red Sea.

Occasionally, the buildup of pressure can lead to bursts of cataclysmic activity. In September 2005, a chain of earthquakes caused hundreds of deep fractures, as reported that year [image]. In some spots the ground shifted some 26 feet [image], and magma, enough to fill a football stadium more than 2000 times, was injected into a crack between the two plates.

More recent analysis showed that the Red Sea is parting as part of the phenomenon.

http://www.livescience.com/environme...rica_torn.html

[Titus]

Originally Posted by eyewtkas

No blind faith involved, Titus. Perhaps you should re-read the article, it doesn't say the new rift has been growing by less than an inch for 30 million year, it says the African and Arabian plates have been, forming the read sea etc.

From an additional article:



http://www.livescience.com/environme...rica_torn.html

I'll re-read the article if you'll read a chapter in the Bible.

[eyewtkas]

Originally Posted by Titus

I'll re-read the article if you'll read a chapter in the Bible.

Is this your way of admitting your were wrong?

[Roses]

Originally Posted by eyewtkas

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-of-earth.html

How old do you think the earth is and why?

I don't know how old the world is, I study the bible to find out various things about this world. I do not believe scientists knows how old the world truly is because scientific data cannot prove accurately how old the world is. Not too long ago an earthquake occured that caused New Zealand to come closer to Australia in just a few seconds, if you follow scientists that same movement to them would have taken many years perhaps even hundreds of years to happen but in reality it only took a few seconds. When the tsunami hit Asia in 2004 the earth's axis shifted, scientists before that would have said that was impossible and if that were to happen it couldn't just happen in a matter of a few seconds but it did. However unlike scientists I am not suprised or amazed at anything that happens in this world because Jesus Christ himself is in control of this world not man and anything he says goes, anything he wants happens. The bible talks about the mark of the beast and various prophecies many of which are unfolding before our very eyes. Historians have proven that Jesus Christ existed, what scientists refuse to discuss is how in the Old Testament before Jesus Christ was born Isaiah prophesied that he would come to earth. A few months ago I posted something where Nasa found a formation of a hand in outer space, a few months ago a plane crashed in the sea and someome survived that impact, miracles have happened and are happening across the world, things are happening and have happened across the world not bounded by the laws of science.

[eyewtkas]

Originally Posted by Roses

I don't know how old the world is, I study the bible to find out various things about this world. I do not believe scientists knows how old the world truly is because scientific data cannot prove accurately how old the world is.

Why not? Do you know how scientists are able to calculate the age of the Earth?

Not too long ago an earthquake occured that caused New Zealand to come closer to Australia in just a few seconds, if you follow scientists that same movement to them would have taken many years perhaps even hundreds of years to happen but in reality it only took a few seconds.

How do you know that this would be their conclusion?

When the tsunami hit Asia in 2004 the earth's axis shifted, scientists before that would have said that was impossible and if that were to happen it couldn't just happen in a matter of a few seconds but it did.

I don't think anyone claimed it was impossible, did they?

The bible talks about the mark of the beast and various prophecies many of which are unfolding before our very eyes.

People have been seing prophecies being fulfilled "before their very eyes" ever since they were written.

A few months ago I posted something where Nasa found a formation of a hand in outer space,

And? I can walk outside and find images in the clouds as well. It doesn't really proove anything though, does it?

a few months ago a plane crashed in the sea and someome survived that impact, miracles have happened and are happening across the world

It probably would have been slightly more miraculous if all the people on the plane had survived, wouldn't it? Otherwise it's really just a case of someone getting incredibly lucky.

things are happening and have happened across the world not bounded by the laws of science.

Such as?

[Roses]

Originally Posted by eyewtkas

Why not? Do you know how scientists are able to calculate the age of the Earth?



How do you know that this would be their conclusion?



I don't think anyone claimed it was impossible, did they?



People have been seing prophecies being fulfilled "before their very eyes" ever since they were written.



And? I can walk outside and find images in the clouds as well. It doesn't really proove anything though, does it?



It probably would have been slightly more miraculous if all the people on the plane had survived, wouldn't it? Otherwise it's really just a case of someone getting incredibly lucky.



Such as?

I am quite suprised that you are unfamiliar with how scientists think of this world. Scientists believed that this earth was created through an intense process that took millions of years, that humans themselves were created as a result of evolution that took millions of years to happen, if you read thousands upon thousands of scientific articles released it holds no room for great shifts or movements in the world to occur within a few seconds because they think this world has gone through and is going through changes that takes millions of years to occur. So therefore scientists are saying there is prove that the earth is millions of years old when in truth and reality those shifts, rifts and movements in the world are quite capable of occuring within a shorter period of time than they want to think. But obviously they don't want to admit that because they do not want to say anything that can show the reality that God created this world. Just recently Nasa said that earth would not be impacted by any serious meteorite at this moment in time yet still a meteorite which scientists didn't expect or saw or was prepared for came towards Indonesia and if it did not break up would have caused loss of life. Because guess what scientists believe that major meteorites are years away from impacting earth which in reality it is not.

You also stated that the hand in space means nothing and it is just like shapes in the clouds. If that is the case then how on earth can clouds form intelligent shapes then, shapes of animals, shapes of bears etc, doesn't scientists consider the world to be mechanical and random, how on earth can in outer space you have the shape of a human hand, an intelligent shape. Years ago scientists were saying that the appendix proved that not all organs in the human body serves a purpose, it had to do with their theory evolution that there is no purpose to anything now there is proof that we humans do indeed need our appendix, that our appendix and every organ in our body has a purpose for being their.

You also make light of real prophecies which is no surprising because scientists after all believe that our existence is random and without purpose so the thought of real prophecies shakes the foundation of scientists completely so they automatically dismiss it which is no suprise really.

You are saying it would be a miracle if everybody survived, so the girl who survived the plane crashing in the ocean that could not even swim you believe that she, that her story be discounted because not everyone survived. I have another true story to share. During the 1950's in America, I don't remember what state choir practice normally takes place at this church several times for the week. Faithfully everyone would show up for choir practice. One a particular day when choir practice was to occur things changed. Every single person came late to choir practice, all of them made plans to go to church at the normal time but they didn't reach. One and two overslept, various things happened that made all members very late. The pastor and his wife lived close to church and was about to head for church when food spilt over the baby and they had to stop to clean the baby etc. When the pastor was in the process of doing that the church suddenly exploded, it was later found out that a gas leak caused that. The poor pastor thought that the members of the church had perished because everyone was supposed to be at church at that time as they normally were. However suprisingly although every single member normally come to church early at a specific time, none of them showed up because all of them had something that happened to them that delayed them from reaching church on time, every single one of them. I am going to find that article and post it up.

For you and other persons who don't believe in God I am here to say that God does indeed exist. If you would only spend time reading the bible and to seek his face he would reveal himself to you.

[Roses]

West Side Baptist Church explosion

At 7:27 p.m. on Wednesday, March 1, 1950, the West Side Baptist Church building exploded in what was believed to be a natural gas explosion. The explosion should have resulted in serious injury and/or fatality to the 15 members of the church choir, who normally met at 7:25 p.m. on Wednesdays for practice. However, by fortuitous coincidence, no one was in the building when it exploded – every one of the 15 members were late for one reason or another:

The pastor (who actually lit the furnace that exploded, but had returned home), and his wife and daughter were late, as the daughter's dress was soiled and the wife was ironing another.
One choir member, a high-school sophomore, was late due to problems with her geometry homework.
Two members, sisters, were late as their car would not start, and their alternate ride was the member with the geometry problem.
Another member and her daughter were late as she had to attend to matters at her mother's house before arriving.
Yet another member was working on an important letter.
One member waited until the last possible minute before leaving, due to the cold weather.
Another member, taking care of his two sons, was delayed and did not realize until the last minute he was late.
The pianist had planned to arrive 30 minutes early, but fell asleep after dinner, which caused her and her mother (the choir director) to be late.
Two other members, high-school students, were late as one wanted to catch the end of a radio program, and the other waited for her as they customarily went together to practice.[5]
The story was a featured segment on the American television series Unsolved Mysteries, and is available on the DVD titled Miracles.[1]. There was also an adaptation of this story in Beyond Belief: Fact or Fiction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatrice,_Nebraska